Editing Help:Discussion

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For any given page, its discussion page can be accessed by clicking on the “Discussion” tab at the top left.

Discussion pages are an integral part of Wikipedia and are therefore subject to the same basic principles ([[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Copyright|publication under free license]]). With some exceptions, all chat rooms can be edited like any other article.
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== To remember ==

Any Wikipedia page - an article, a user page, a project, a help page, etc. - has a '''discussion page''' accessible through the "Discussion" tab, located at the top of the page, on the left. The talk page is often called “'''PoD'''” in jargon. Every discussion page has a [[Help:History|history]] (like articles) which lets you know who has participated.

== Why discuss? ==
Discussion is '''necessary''' to improve the articles, solve a problem in relation to the article, but also solve a technical problem or simply seek help from more experienced contributors.

Sometimes disagreements arise between Wikipedia contributors. The essential rule is therefore to explain yourself and give others the opportunity to do the same on the discussion pages. Generally speaking, it is believed that "there cannot be a perfect article without discussion".

{{Header Help
| descriptif=In a project [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Community expectations|collaborative and community]] like Wikipedia, the '''discussion''' is essential. It is necessary to communicate with other contributors:to coordinate articles, discuss elements or seek consensus on controversial subjects.

For any given page, its discussion page can be accessed by clicking on the “Discussion” tab at the top left.

Discussion pages are an integral part of Wikipedia and are therefore subject to the same basic principles ([[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Copyright|publication under free license]]). With some exceptions, all chat rooms can be edited like any other article.
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== To remember ==

Any Wikipedia page - an article, a user page, a project, a help page, etc. - has a '''discussion page''' accessible through the "Discussion" tab, located at the top of the page, on the left. The talk page is often called “'''PoD'''” in jargon. Every discussion page has a [[Help:History|history]] (like articles) which lets you know who has participated.

== Why discuss? ==
Discussion is '''necessary''' to improve the articles, solve a problem in relation to the article, but also solve a technical problem or simply seek help from more experienced contributors.

Sometimes disagreements arise between Wikipedia contributors. The essential rule is therefore to explain yourself and give others the opportunity to do the same on the discussion pages. Generally speaking, it is believed that "there cannot be a perfect article without discussion".

== How to chat? ==

=== Locate the "Discussion" tab ===

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Generally, all discussions are done in the “'''Discussion'''” tab, located at the top of the page, to the left, near the Wikipedia logo. Click on it to access it. Once in the “Discussion” tab, click on '''' 'add a subject''''' (same line, on the right) in order to start a new discussion. This brings you to the Wikipedia discussion system.

If you are on <b> mobile or tablet </b> you may not see the chat tab in the interface, especially if you are not logged into your account. In this case click on the link <code> [https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Discussion&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop Deactivate mobile version] </code> at the bottom of the page. This should give you access to the more complete computer version. You can also activate the "desktop version" in your browser and change the page url as follows:<code> fr.m.wikipedia.org/... </code> => <code> en.wikipedia .org /. .. </code>.
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=== Start a new discussion ===

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Do you see the little box "Subject/Title"? This is where you need to add the '''title of your new discussion'''. This, although relatively short, should be as clear as possible. For example:"'' Watchlist issue ''", "'' Disagreement on the weight of an apple ''", etc.

The edit area is located below. This is where you will write your text.

Some basic recommendations to discuss:First of all, don't forget the '''ground rules of [[politeness]]''' (hello, goodbye, welcome, sorry, please, thank you, etc.), adapt your tone to the circumstances, give your opinion as accurately as possible, remembering that everyone contributes to improving Wikipedia, and not to degrading it.
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To be sure to find the discussion page and be alerted to a response, consider adding it to your [[Help:Watchlist|watchlist]] by clicking on the black star at the top right of the "View history" tab.

=== Reply to a discussion in progress and put away your messages ===
That's it, a user has replied to you and it is high time to reply! If the discussions are numerous, locate the one you created via the summary.

'''New threads are at the bottom of the page,''' old threads are at the top of the page.

'''Your message must be placed under the previous one'''.

To add a new message, click on the '' edit code '' button located in the section title. <br/>
=== Sign your messages ===
It is important to '''sign your messages'''. This signature generates links to [[Help:User page|your user page and your talk page]], followed by the date and time of your message. To sign, click on the [[Help:Editing toolbar|toolbar]] icon, as shown in the image.

A signature consists of four [[Wikipedia:fr:Tilde|tildes]] signature (<nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki>) that you can also add manually by clicking on <nowiki> ~~~~ </ nowiki> (in wiki footer codes). When you click on the "Publish changes" button in the editor, your signature will change to "<nowiki> - ~~~~ </nowiki>" (or "<nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki> ") To" - [[User:Example|your nickname]] ([[User discussion:Example|discuss]]) April 21, 2015 at 20:18 (CEST) ".

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